. >> now that he's been elected it seems like the obvious choice. i think one of the big reasons was the age factor because so many of the cardinals have been saying ahead of time we need a younger man. extreme youth in this world is considered like 63. so he's 76 and he just, he wasn't on the radar but he was such a prominent player in the last conclave, you'd think he would be a natural. but you know, people overlook that. there was also the accepted wisdom that can come in second, it's bad form to then be elected. it's sort of in a way it's something of a slight on your predecessor. but really the resignation of benedict may have changed that whole way of thinking. if he can resign, well then such taboos are now over. >> rose: you said an interesting thing which you said which was the idea of first of all was he a man of faith, and secondly, was he a man who could govern. governorring seemed to be an important quality here. >> definitely. there's a real sense that things have to be straightened out. there was a great feeling of drift under benedi